What, besides avoiding further friction with the White House, does Israel have to gain by waiting? Is there a pressing national interest—a raison d’etat, to cite another diplomatic phrase—that Israel could fulfill.
If the terrorist side is protected from losing devastatingly (as Japan & Germany) it will have won
Instead of 1701 all of the "West" should have sent impressive ships to parade the coast outside Israel's territorial waters with "don't you even dare think from the river to the sea" or similar plastered all over it and thus allowes Israel finish the job
Instead I remember a smiling a welcome Unifil member saluting a Hezbollah flag bearer
As long as our tax dollars are being sent to UNRWA (Hamas) and Lebanon (Hezbollah) and various other so-called humanitarian (terrorist) organizations, I don’t see the problem sending aid for Israel to defend themselves from all the Western financed terrorists.
90 percent of the military aid to Israel flows back to the USA defense industry along with all of the innovations that Israel applies to the weapons. Israel is doing more than its part in keeping the west safe.
Yes, it’s a good investment. But what does the West get for the billions given to the Palestinians? Murders, rapes, corruption, terrorism, kidnappings, hatred of the West who gives them the billions and civil disturbances by their supporters in the West. Bad investment I’d say.
This whole mess lands at the feet of Obama. He intentionally made Iran a nuclear power all in the name of Middle East ‘equity’. Yes, he’s the most dangerous man in the world and has put Israel in peril.
Iran is not yet a nuclear weapon-owning power. Should it become one it would still be very reluctant to begin a war using these atomic weapons, because the response from Israel (and possibly the US, too) would be devastating! So all this big talk of this development is mostly for propaganda purposes and the deterrent nature of these weapons is still strongly working, even for places that have not yet got such technology developed to the stage of stock-piling such warheads and the means for delivering them.
You’re talking about rational people. These Islamo-fascists are not. They believe in the Mahdi, the messianic figure who will appear at end times once the world is steeped in chaos.
My sense is that Israel does not have the capacity to successfully bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Attacking oil would cause tremendous turmoil and backlash in the free world. Sometime, yes, but not now, I think.
Would not a strong, and not merely a token bombing of missile sites and factories actually meaningfully degrade Iran’s attack capability?
I think it would be terrific for Israel to bomb Iranian drone factories. That would also benefit Ukraine and the entire free world. I have no idea how practical that is, how many drone plants there are, how easy it is to rebuild them, etc.
Israel faces potential shortage of interceptor missiles — report
Experts warn air defenses could be ‘stretched’ if Iran reacts to anticipated Israeli retaliatory strike against it, or if Hezbollah goes all out.
China is heating up it’s Military against Tiawan and North Korea is threatening, and becoming more agressive against South Korea…and then there’s Russia with Nukes already in firing position, and threats from Iran/Russia against Israel who they now know is running out of defense weapons.
All of this while Manchurian Biden has held back weapons shipments to Israel for months, and sent 1 THAAD as an election gimmick for the stupid voters here in the USA.
The head of the snake is Iran. Until the war finally reaches this terrorist country and shows the world that the radicalist Islam policy will not manage to give it world dominance, there will always be some conflicts in our Middle East countries. A severe bombardment of Teheran might do it, because they seem to have some very cowderly features in giving the job of destroying Israel to various proxies, without any degree of success, I might add, although much loss of life is the disastrous result and seems to be of no concern to such evil perpetrators of these battles..
Who is the artist that will design a deal that enables Israel to defeat IHHH+?
Who will compose and orchestrate the multi-dimensional continuum of strikes that lead to the collapse of the Iranian regime?
Proportion is a relative term. It is nonsensical to act proportionately to the Iranian attack. Israel must act disproportionately to the ongoing Iranian threat.
How is it possible that Iran is still producing UAVs?
The time to strike is now and the target should be both the nuclear facilities and the oil refineries. Place a dagger in Iran’s heart and hopefully topple the Mullahs NOW! Israel will be doing the world a favor. The real question is will the world realize it?
Maybe Israel shouldn’t have stolen the land they’re sitting on. Maybe the Irgun shouldn’t have murdered and/or exiled 750,000 Arabs indigenous to that land. Crime begets crime, I’m afraid. I understand that EVERY Israeli prime minister changed (“hebraized”) their name so as to legitimize their claim to that stolen land, as “God’s chosen people”. What a charade. But the world is catching on, and the worm is turning for Israel…
(Netanyahu is the only Israeli prime minister not to “hebraize” his European name in order to facilitate the land grab: his DAD from Poland changed HIS name to Netanyahu: Bibi just went along with the deception).
As for the West’s “support for Israel”: Spain’s unions are now striking to demand that the EU cut ties with the Zionist state. Israel, it’s not looking good for your bigoted, bullying selves!
Sure David. The land was promised to the Jews by God. Uh huh. How old are you? Eight years old? You like your propaganda fairy stories, written by rabbis, and collected in something called the Torah, or Hebrew “Bible”? Obviously you do. It’s convenient when Jews depend on Jewish mythology to murder and steal land for themselves, isn’t it? David, your intellectual immaturity is a disgrace to the human race. You should be ashamed of yourself, but of course you don’t have the capacity for that: because you’re deranged, like an adult who still believes in Santa Claus. Here little david, have a lollipop. There’s a good boy.
The Holy Land on which the Jews of Israel partly occupy was originally promised to them by God. It has been wasted and used badly by many other nations but the Jewish National Fund (Keren Kayemet) , which began in 1902, collected money and bought back much of it from the absentee arab landlords whose life was one of luxury in Beirut, until the British Mandate ended in 1948. Then Israel came into existence after its war of independence. For these reasons, the claims by Michael (above) are completely false and untrue. We should all make a proper study of the history of this Land instead of making such bad bald statements, that are unbacked..
Why not turn a calculated “delay” into a strategic ploy by design, using the anticipated response advantageously to create the element of surprise when least expected.
This is most effective when the enemy thinks you have backed down & chickened out, when the knockout counter punch is least expected, when executed.
The longer it tarries the greater the suspense builds in the mind of the enemy this creates a fear vulnerability, it’s when they make the mistake of having a false sense of security…..
During this time Israel achieves 3 things.
•Ultimate rapid response preparedness to engage with maximum targeted precision and impact, at a time of it’s choosing.
•Greater intelligence gathering capabilities as the enemy is left in suspense.
•Time to keep a watchful eye on the changing of the guards in the upcoming US elections. The moment the driving force behind the wheel of the America is known changes everything! And becomes a critical mass moment.
a. If the current admin stays. Israel knows it’s pretty much on it’s own, know it must cut the chase, and proceed with or without any back up support.
b. If Trump is reinstated (which I believe he most definitely Will!!)
Israel knows the Brotherhood is back and intact, even stronger than before!
This would then alter everything on the strategic chessboard where your opponent realises one of your pawns has just broken thru their gap in their battle line, hit the position to become a Queen right up their clacker….
In the meantime. All the while, as each day passes, Israel must maintain it’s readiness, to be on high alert, to go ahead instantly should Iran get so nervously on edge, it can’t handle being kept in suspense, and makes the mistake of sending even, just one more missile…. That is the signal, when It’s all systems Go for Israel!!!!
Preparation, Readiness, Timing, Action.
I know, easier said than done, when one is merely a passionate spectator, and not in the middle of it.
A political mess both in Israel and the United States. Let the IDF do its job.
Agree! The Problem is Neither Side has been allowed to Win. That's how you end a war.
Not correct👎
If the terrorist side is protected from losing devastatingly (as Japan & Germany) it will have won
Instead of 1701 all of the "West" should have sent impressive ships to parade the coast outside Israel's territorial waters with "don't you even dare think from the river to the sea" or similar plastered all over it and thus allowes Israel finish the job
Instead I remember a smiling a welcome Unifil member saluting a Hezbollah flag bearer
1701?
UN Resolution - Litani River - Blue Line - etc. - I think Michael Oren has a very worth a read piece on Lebanon
Even Der Spiegel admits in a longuish piece condemning Israel not being nice w Unifil in 2 or 3 sentences the reality if what is going on there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701
Thank You! The light bulb has gone on. Ok Ok its a dim one, but its all I have to work with.
Fund the “mess” with Israeli money.
I could not agree more! Israel is the only pro-human society in that part of the world. We ought to help her defend herself.
Just send your tax money - not mine then. 🍉
As long as our tax dollars are being sent to UNRWA (Hamas) and Lebanon (Hezbollah) and various other so-called humanitarian (terrorist) organizations, I don’t see the problem sending aid for Israel to defend themselves from all the Western financed terrorists.
90 percent of the military aid to Israel flows back to the USA defense industry along with all of the innovations that Israel applies to the weapons. Israel is doing more than its part in keeping the west safe.
Yes, it’s a good investment. But what does the West get for the billions given to the Palestinians? Murders, rapes, corruption, terrorism, kidnappings, hatred of the West who gives them the billions and civil disturbances by their supporters in the West. Bad investment I’d say.
This whole mess lands at the feet of Obama. He intentionally made Iran a nuclear power all in the name of Middle East ‘equity’. Yes, he’s the most dangerous man in the world and has put Israel in peril.
Iran is not yet a nuclear weapon-owning power. Should it become one it would still be very reluctant to begin a war using these atomic weapons, because the response from Israel (and possibly the US, too) would be devastating! So all this big talk of this development is mostly for propaganda purposes and the deterrent nature of these weapons is still strongly working, even for places that have not yet got such technology developed to the stage of stock-piling such warheads and the means for delivering them.
You’re talking about rational people. These Islamo-fascists are not. They believe in the Mahdi, the messianic figure who will appear at end times once the world is steeped in chaos.
My sense is that Israel does not have the capacity to successfully bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Attacking oil would cause tremendous turmoil and backlash in the free world. Sometime, yes, but not now, I think.
Would not a strong, and not merely a token bombing of missile sites and factories actually meaningfully degrade Iran’s attack capability?
I think it would be terrific for Israel to bomb Iranian drone factories. That would also benefit Ukraine and the entire free world. I have no idea how practical that is, how many drone plants there are, how easy it is to rebuild them, etc.
When it comes to peace and security for Israel it is and has always been "not now"
If again it is "not now" we the "west" (and India) may as well admit that democracy isn't worth to make a stand for
Israel faces potential shortage of interceptor missiles — report
Experts warn air defenses could be ‘stretched’ if Iran reacts to anticipated Israeli retaliatory strike against it, or if Hezbollah goes all out.
China is heating up it’s Military against Tiawan and North Korea is threatening, and becoming more agressive against South Korea…and then there’s Russia with Nukes already in firing position, and threats from Iran/Russia against Israel who they now know is running out of defense weapons.
All of this while Manchurian Biden has held back weapons shipments to Israel for months, and sent 1 THAAD as an election gimmick for the stupid voters here in the USA.
Gee, what could go wrong ?
The US should be kissing Israel’s ass.
The head of the snake is Iran. Until the war finally reaches this terrorist country and shows the world that the radicalist Islam policy will not manage to give it world dominance, there will always be some conflicts in our Middle East countries. A severe bombardment of Teheran might do it, because they seem to have some very cowderly features in giving the job of destroying Israel to various proxies, without any degree of success, I might add, although much loss of life is the disastrous result and seems to be of no concern to such evil perpetrators of these battles..
Don't ever doubt the Israelis.
They have a plan that will be meticulously executed when the time is right.
The IDF are the best in the world.
Who is the artist that will design a deal that enables Israel to defeat IHHH+?
Who will compose and orchestrate the multi-dimensional continuum of strikes that lead to the collapse of the Iranian regime?
Proportion is a relative term. It is nonsensical to act proportionately to the Iranian attack. Israel must act disproportionately to the ongoing Iranian threat.
How is it possible that Iran is still producing UAVs?
🙏🇮🇱🙏🇮🇱🙏🇮🇱🙏
What a Catch 22 😥
I wish there were more unequivocally biased less timid helpers and more side paths like the ones Teddy Kollek wrote he found once upon a time.
Wouldn't trust the U.S. for a split second. Henry Kissinger said "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."
The time to strike is now and the target should be both the nuclear facilities and the oil refineries. Place a dagger in Iran’s heart and hopefully topple the Mullahs NOW! Israel will be doing the world a favor. The real question is will the world realize it?
The best outcome for Israel is that the Iranian people rise up against the mullahs and do to them what the they did to the Shah.
Maybe Israel shouldn’t have stolen the land they’re sitting on. Maybe the Irgun shouldn’t have murdered and/or exiled 750,000 Arabs indigenous to that land. Crime begets crime, I’m afraid. I understand that EVERY Israeli prime minister changed (“hebraized”) their name so as to legitimize their claim to that stolen land, as “God’s chosen people”. What a charade. But the world is catching on, and the worm is turning for Israel…
(Netanyahu is the only Israeli prime minister not to “hebraize” his European name in order to facilitate the land grab: his DAD from Poland changed HIS name to Netanyahu: Bibi just went along with the deception).
As for the West’s “support for Israel”: Spain’s unions are now striking to demand that the EU cut ties with the Zionist state. Israel, it’s not looking good for your bigoted, bullying selves!
Sure David. The land was promised to the Jews by God. Uh huh. How old are you? Eight years old? You like your propaganda fairy stories, written by rabbis, and collected in something called the Torah, or Hebrew “Bible”? Obviously you do. It’s convenient when Jews depend on Jewish mythology to murder and steal land for themselves, isn’t it? David, your intellectual immaturity is a disgrace to the human race. You should be ashamed of yourself, but of course you don’t have the capacity for that: because you’re deranged, like an adult who still believes in Santa Claus. Here little david, have a lollipop. There’s a good boy.
The Holy Land on which the Jews of Israel partly occupy was originally promised to them by God. It has been wasted and used badly by many other nations but the Jewish National Fund (Keren Kayemet) , which began in 1902, collected money and bought back much of it from the absentee arab landlords whose life was one of luxury in Beirut, until the British Mandate ended in 1948. Then Israel came into existence after its war of independence. For these reasons, the claims by Michael (above) are completely false and untrue. We should all make a proper study of the history of this Land instead of making such bad bald statements, that are unbacked..
Those senior military and diplomatic officials are human shields.
Why not turn a calculated “delay” into a strategic ploy by design, using the anticipated response advantageously to create the element of surprise when least expected.
This is most effective when the enemy thinks you have backed down & chickened out, when the knockout counter punch is least expected, when executed.
The longer it tarries the greater the suspense builds in the mind of the enemy this creates a fear vulnerability, it’s when they make the mistake of having a false sense of security…..
During this time Israel achieves 3 things.
•Ultimate rapid response preparedness to engage with maximum targeted precision and impact, at a time of it’s choosing.
•Greater intelligence gathering capabilities as the enemy is left in suspense.
•Time to keep a watchful eye on the changing of the guards in the upcoming US elections. The moment the driving force behind the wheel of the America is known changes everything! And becomes a critical mass moment.
a. If the current admin stays. Israel knows it’s pretty much on it’s own, know it must cut the chase, and proceed with or without any back up support.
b. If Trump is reinstated (which I believe he most definitely Will!!)
Israel knows the Brotherhood is back and intact, even stronger than before!
This would then alter everything on the strategic chessboard where your opponent realises one of your pawns has just broken thru their gap in their battle line, hit the position to become a Queen right up their clacker….
In the meantime. All the while, as each day passes, Israel must maintain it’s readiness, to be on high alert, to go ahead instantly should Iran get so nervously on edge, it can’t handle being kept in suspense, and makes the mistake of sending even, just one more missile…. That is the signal, when It’s all systems Go for Israel!!!!
Preparation, Readiness, Timing, Action.
I know, easier said than done, when one is merely a passionate spectator, and not in the middle of it.
I didn’t have to read any further than “If Trump is elected…”