Quoting the racist Barry Soetoro who signed the death warrant for Israel with Irans nuclear Mullahs is a classic example of the kind of thinking that Greek sympathizer Jews used before the Maccabees showed up. They take the form of woke tenured professors at Columbia, Harvard and other cesspools of antisemitism today.
Interesting to read the Obama quote in the context of what we now know about him, minimizing Israel’s and Judaism’s influence in world history. Quite a contrast from a decade ago.
Let me state right here some Biblical Facts & also some Historical Facts. To begin with, the Whole World is Deceived. None moreso than “traditional Christianity” about Xmas & Hanukkah. The only place you will find any reference “associated with” Christmas is in Jer 10:3-4.
Christ did not keep nor did He instruct any of His followers, to keep Christmas or celebrate “His Birthday” on the contrary He Kept & instructed His Followers to Keep His Father’s Commandments (all 10) as His “custom” was. Christ was Not Born on December 25th! This date, is when the Pagan Saturnalia & Bromelia is celebrated. A counterfeit “christianity” was adopted to this day, in an attempt to attract converts into this pagan religion falsely named “christian” and Traditional Christianity, has followed along with it ever since. Any encyclopaedia will tell you where the origins of Christmas began and that are adopted by rooted in the Pagan Roman Festival of gluttony, drunkenness, revelry & orgies, (sounds familiar at this time of every year) of Saturnalia and the worship of the Pagan Mythical God of the Planet Saturn 🪐. True Christians are explicitly warned not to take part in any of these practices, traditions, customs and doctrines of men, false “gods” & “false” religions. Christ also said “I will build “My Church” singular, not many different “churches” with differing beliefs & customs, doctrines, and “Names” but all claiming to be “christian”….
The only one Name found in the New Testament of The Church is “The Church of God” which began on June 17th 31ad with only 120 members, on the Day of Pentecost and was then established in 7 different major locations at that time, “The Church of God” at Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia & Laodacea, etc, but would always be a Little Flock, a few in number, that would keep His & His Father’s Same Commandments. and As it is written.
Hanukkah, on the other hand is the Celebration of an actual Historic Event, the Dedication of The Temple. Having nothing whatsoever to do with Xmas. The True Church that Christ founded on the Day of Pentecost with 120 adults, is named exactly what it is in the Holy Bible, as, The Church of God. Which keeps all the Commandments (inc the Sabbath) not Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Gaia, or Birthdays (of Christ) etc etc. the only “birthday” mentioned was of the Roman custom, and where John the Baptist’s Head was delivered on a platter as a “birthday” present…. go figure😳
All religions are ripe with symbolism and metaphor. Christianity is structured about the coming of Jesus, especially the philosophy of Jesus, and his return to his Father. It matters not what days we celebrate; it matters that we embrace the tenets implied.
Your comments suggests considerable intolerance and perhaps hatred of others. Is that really what you want to project?
If one studies and understands their Bible, it & those quoted as canonised, as saying it does matter what days are to be kept “holy” like The Sabbath etc etc…. I’m not going to argue with what it plainly says. You can if you wish, that’s entirely up you. Show me where it says to Keep any “other” days or man made “customs” by Name? A Christian is one who follow Christ, who’s example and instructions were & are given, as such, to Do What He Said To Do, the Way He Said to Do It. One can choose to Do so or Not. And by such, one is Known, by their Actions, by their Fruits you shall know them. I can “say” I am, a Buddhist for example, that does Not automatically make me “one” if I do not “live” as one, does it?
So...if Jesus was a Palestinian, and he was turned in by his own people, does this mean the Christians were wrongfully blaming the Jews this whole time?
I am fairly certain that Moses was a Palestinian. Why else would he lead his people back to Palestine?
The answer to 2+2 depends on its context.
I am certain that David was a Palestinian who was defending his land from the Jewish Philistines.
2+2 equals anything you want Math like history is fluid.
Judah Maccabee was certainly Palestinian because he led a resistance against an occupying power.
2 + 2 = a number of your choice. History is a state of mind.
Merry Chanukah from Normandy, France where George Washington crossed the English Channel in his battle against the Finnish to liberate the 13 colonies from Jewish occupation.
So if we follow your incredibly flawed logic, The Pilgrims were citizens of the United States of America, Peter The Great was a Soviet and the Samuri and Shoguns were members of Imperial Japan.
As a freethinker, aka atheist, know that for untold numbers of non-Jews, the light of the Jewish people burns most brightly in these troubled times! Peace .
What a lot of nonsense. A child is born, his mother is a virgin and his father is God! Immaculate conception! Go figure! He is confused (I would be too) and turns into a Jewish activist who had it coming! the Romans weren’t kidding in those days!! End of story……………………………..!!
Anyone who promotes the duplicitous lectures of Mr. Obama is at best naive. The Antisemitic situation today in large measure was ushered in by him, his administration, and his subsequent insincere advocacy. All Americans should not forgive him and his supporters.
Why do we always think we are celebrating birthdays? You are only born once! What we do celebrate are birthday anniversaries--the words of the song got it wrong!
Yet, have you tried to see Christmas on a deeper plane, one deeper than the vulgarity you see? Reaching an understanding of life and philosophy are subtle and thankfully never ending. Try harder.
Quoting the racist Barry Soetoro who signed the death warrant for Israel with Irans nuclear Mullahs is a classic example of the kind of thinking that Greek sympathizer Jews used before the Maccabees showed up. They take the form of woke tenured professors at Columbia, Harvard and other cesspools of antisemitism today.
Interesting to read the Obama quote in the context of what we now know about him, minimizing Israel’s and Judaism’s influence in world history. Quite a contrast from a decade ago.
Obama and Biden rival each other for worst President in American history.
Let me state right here some Biblical Facts & also some Historical Facts. To begin with, the Whole World is Deceived. None moreso than “traditional Christianity” about Xmas & Hanukkah. The only place you will find any reference “associated with” Christmas is in Jer 10:3-4.
Christ did not keep nor did He instruct any of His followers, to keep Christmas or celebrate “His Birthday” on the contrary He Kept & instructed His Followers to Keep His Father’s Commandments (all 10) as His “custom” was. Christ was Not Born on December 25th! This date, is when the Pagan Saturnalia & Bromelia is celebrated. A counterfeit “christianity” was adopted to this day, in an attempt to attract converts into this pagan religion falsely named “christian” and Traditional Christianity, has followed along with it ever since. Any encyclopaedia will tell you where the origins of Christmas began and that are adopted by rooted in the Pagan Roman Festival of gluttony, drunkenness, revelry & orgies, (sounds familiar at this time of every year) of Saturnalia and the worship of the Pagan Mythical God of the Planet Saturn 🪐. True Christians are explicitly warned not to take part in any of these practices, traditions, customs and doctrines of men, false “gods” & “false” religions. Christ also said “I will build “My Church” singular, not many different “churches” with differing beliefs & customs, doctrines, and “Names” but all claiming to be “christian”….
The only one Name found in the New Testament of The Church is “The Church of God” which began on June 17th 31ad with only 120 members, on the Day of Pentecost and was then established in 7 different major locations at that time, “The Church of God” at Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia & Laodacea, etc, but would always be a Little Flock, a few in number, that would keep His & His Father’s Same Commandments. and As it is written.
Hanukkah, on the other hand is the Celebration of an actual Historic Event, the Dedication of The Temple. Having nothing whatsoever to do with Xmas. The True Church that Christ founded on the Day of Pentecost with 120 adults, is named exactly what it is in the Holy Bible, as, The Church of God. Which keeps all the Commandments (inc the Sabbath) not Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Gaia, or Birthdays (of Christ) etc etc. the only “birthday” mentioned was of the Roman custom, and where John the Baptist’s Head was delivered on a platter as a “birthday” present…. go figure😳
So Happy Hanukkah 🕎 Shalom. Selah🤔
All religions are ripe with symbolism and metaphor. Christianity is structured about the coming of Jesus, especially the philosophy of Jesus, and his return to his Father. It matters not what days we celebrate; it matters that we embrace the tenets implied.
Your comments suggests considerable intolerance and perhaps hatred of others. Is that really what you want to project?
If one studies and understands their Bible, it & those quoted as canonised, as saying it does matter what days are to be kept “holy” like The Sabbath etc etc…. I’m not going to argue with what it plainly says. You can if you wish, that’s entirely up you. Show me where it says to Keep any “other” days or man made “customs” by Name? A Christian is one who follow Christ, who’s example and instructions were & are given, as such, to Do What He Said To Do, the Way He Said to Do It. One can choose to Do so or Not. And by such, one is Known, by their Actions, by their Fruits you shall know them. I can “say” I am, a Buddhist for example, that does Not automatically make me “one” if I do not “live” as one, does it?
The difference between Christians and Jews:
The Christians believe the Messiah has come and will one day return;
The Jews believe the Messiah has yet to come.
So when the Messiah comes we will ask, is this the first visit or the second?
So...if Jesus was a Palestinian, and he was turned in by his own people, does this mean the Christians were wrongfully blaming the Jews this whole time?
I am fairly certain that Moses was a Palestinian. Why else would he lead his people back to Palestine?
The answer to 2+2 depends on its context.
I am certain that David was a Palestinian who was defending his land from the Jewish Philistines.
2+2 equals anything you want Math like history is fluid.
Judah Maccabee was certainly Palestinian because he led a resistance against an occupying power.
2 + 2 = a number of your choice. History is a state of mind.
Merry Chanukah from Normandy, France where George Washington crossed the English Channel in his battle against the Finnish to liberate the 13 colonies from Jewish occupation.
Peace. Shalom. Merry Christmas.
Thanks Professor Oren.
So if we follow your incredibly flawed logic, The Pilgrims were citizens of the United States of America, Peter The Great was a Soviet and the Samuri and Shoguns were members of Imperial Japan.
Follow my incredibly flawed humor.
As a freethinker, aka atheist, know that for untold numbers of non-Jews, the light of the Jewish people burns most brightly in these troubled times! Peace .
Very nice. As it happens, I also just wrote about the surprising connection between Hanukah and Christmas (from a very different perspective): https://open.substack.com/pub/authorjoelmhoffman/p/surprising-connection-hanukkah-christmas
What a lot of nonsense. A child is born, his mother is a virgin and his father is God! Immaculate conception! Go figure! He is confused (I would be too) and turns into a Jewish activist who had it coming! the Romans weren’t kidding in those days!! End of story……………………………..!!
Anyone who promotes the duplicitous lectures of Mr. Obama is at best naive. The Antisemitic situation today in large measure was ushered in by him, his administration, and his subsequent insincere advocacy. All Americans should not forgive him and his supporters.
Why do we always think we are celebrating birthdays? You are only born once! What we do celebrate are birthday anniversaries--the words of the song got it wrong!
To me Christmas is just another day, and I like it that way. Christmas long ago became an orgy of schlock and vulgar materialism. Jesus would puke.
Yet, have you tried to see Christmas on a deeper plane, one deeper than the vulgarity you see? Reaching an understanding of life and philosophy are subtle and thankfully never ending. Try harder.
As the timeless joke explains it--Jesus (Yehosuah in Hebrrew) was another nice Jewish boy who thought he was god. And his mother believed him!
And given the mores of the pagan Romans at the times--ne was probably a venerated homosexuals who the Romans adored.
not funny, not clever, not thoughtful.